Paul Levy writes a piece called ‘After The Service Rituals’ at Reformation21 that resonates.
Having loaded my head full of information and unloaded it in a hopefully cogent and helpful form I’m pretty much cactus after worship. Generally I float around looking available so anyone who wants to talk to me can, but at the same time there’s a big space in my mind where a whole bunch of thought just used to be. Not every Sunday, but a lot. It’s hard to catch new people, keep up with old people and check up on various situations when you can’t put two thoughts together.
It’s good when people come and natter away in a general form while I sort of stare into the middle distance over their shoulders. People are very patient with their spaced out pastor.
Anyway, after reading this I didn’t feel like it was only me:
After the services on Sunday I was asked two remarkable questions. The first one was having preached on Matthew 28:1-10 . What evidence do I have that Mary Magdalene was sad at the crucifixion, as there are no verses which seem to speak of her emotions at that point? Am I just not reading into the text that she was sad? After about 5 minutes I gave up trying to convince her that the fact she was there, standing at a distance from the Cross, and was there, opposite his tomb gave us enough evidence that she cared for Jesus and so must have felt sad. She loved him. Back came the reply ‘ There’s no verse that actually says that. I want chapter and verse!!!’ At this point I resisted violence, muttered ‘I’ll come back to you’ and smiled.
Then to top it off on Sunday night, preaching away, I was asked, quite out of the blue, ‘what do you think is the difference between Lewis’ and Edwards’ metaphysics?” For a while I thought, ‘What on earth is Lewis Allen doing writing on metaphysics?’ but after a short pause I said,’ I don’t even understand the question’. At least my questioner asked it with a wry smile on his face.
I find the after service rituals on Sundays quite difficult. I was brought up in a church where the minister went to the door and we all shuffled past to shake his hand. It meant you had to say something complimentary to him and there ended up being a huge bottleneck to get out of church behind the more talkative members of the congregation. Dr Lloyd Jones would wait in his vestry, although it would have the advantage for me that for weeks on end no one would come and see me. My question would be how do you get rid of time wasters? According to Lyle Dorsett, AW Tozer went into the crèche and just mucked about with the kids and played with the toys thus avoiding the adults which seems to me to be very sensible. I’m told William Still sat at the front of the congregation on Sunday nights and waited for folk to come up and see him. I have managed to perfect the art of ”circuits”, basically wandering around the congregation appearing like you’re looking for someone but without actually talking to anyone. It’s a terrible admission. I want to be a good shepherd to people but it’s hard work talking after preaching.
Of course I’m being facetious. There are normally great conversations after the service. It’s prime pastoral time but show a little bit of love to your preachers after the service. There are real questions and then there are times when it’s better just to show a little bit of compassion to the preacher and leave him alone.
Oh Man.
Don’t get me started on this.
Hi Gary,
You’ll be interested to know I’m filling in at Wagga for 7 weeks while our mutual friend takes 7 weeks LSL.
Imagine how spaced out I was after 3 services in 3 and 3/4 hrs, and 6 weeks to go!
I always remember it was a fault of mine at Bayside that led to a family leaving – I never took any advice they had to offer after church – whatever that was!?
Cheers
David
Pace yourself, David.
And for goodness’ sake don’t joke with our friend that there’s nothing to it and he should be looking for more work to fill up his time.
How true!! It is hard talking to people staight after preaching but certainly worth making the effort. Also, things aren’t helped if you receive criticism (unhelpful in content and also the way its delivered) straight after preaching as you greet people on the way out. But we push on in the grace and strength of our God, particularly when you have a second morning service to preach at too.